P.G. Has Top Three Crash Sites in Region

It would be interesting to see the accidents stats with information of the number of traffic movements at the intersections to see which one has the worst rate of movements/accidents, including for the ones outside of town.

When they take a traffic count lets hope the Manderins at City hall don't become involved or the great Mare Kinsley. That would certainly screw the stats.

Just a thought!
Cheers

So what program is launched to reduce crashes at 16 and Domano? More cops! They will not improve that intersection anytime soon as its a cash cow for fines.

Look at the design of the intersection, it is criminal. When appoaching from the west there can be traffic entering from Southridge, exiting for Canadian Tire, Turning left for Tyner, turnig right for Domano all in the space of a couple of hundred feet. Also traffic coming out of Southridge cutting across two lanes of traffic to go left up Tyner and on top of this there are no lines on the road most of the year. A person should see the mixup when people are trying to figure out what lane to be in. On top of all this there is a rather sharp left turn as you approach the intersection. The only special program besides cops "tax collectors" at this intersection is a sign warning of a high crash intersection, and where is this sign, not up the highway a ways but right at the intersection where it will not be noticed because everyone is playing dodge the traffic.

Now this post is getting long but I have only decribed approaching from the West. Coming from the east has its own bad design. The left turn onto Domano is very dangerous for the fact the highway makes a rather sharp right turn up ahead. If a pickup truck or larger vehicle is making a left turn ahead of you to go up Tyner and you are making a left onto Domano that right turn up ahead makes for a very bad blind spot. The traffic coming from the west and in the curve is hidden behind the large vehicle in front of you.

I haven't finished yet on top of all this there is a very heavy volume of heavy trucks!

So highways dept. and ICBC what is the death and injury, to money ratio before there is a redesign. Oh okay I understand all the money is being spent on the sea to sky highway for the rich getting to Whistler. A wrecked BMW is tragic.

I don't understand how Highways Dept and ICBC managers can sleep at night.

IMO the Domano & HWY 16 intersection is an obvious candidate for an overpass if there ever was one in Northern BC. Tyner-Domano under HWY 16.

The reason why it is not done to this day is because BC never elected federal liberals, and it is the federal government that funds that intersection infrastructure as part of the trans Canada hiway. Now that we are so-called-represented in government by the Harper conservatives we look to Dick Harris as the relevant in government representative of that riding to fund the Domano intersection or PG ring road.

IMO a trans-Canada bi-pass root from Beaverly to hiway 97 is the most obvious long term infrastructure solution as part of a PG ring road connecting to industrial lands out Salmon Valley (provincial funded). IMO Dick Harris is an inept anti-infrastructure vigilantly and totally lacking any strategic capability as a representative; and Shirely Bond or John Rustad have no long term vision for their ridings either; ditto for the city councillors as well(too many to list here)....

Why isn't Tabor and 15th on that list? Could the accidents have a direct correlation to the abilities of the people in the neighbourhoods around them? Lol

Maybe people in College Heights shouldn’t be allowed to drive (tongue in cheek), unless they can prove the accidents aren’t caused by them.

You make some good points Seamutt. There are a number of things that can be done without much cost. Some of the offramps with the short approach that you mention need to be eliminated.

When making a left turn on to Domano from #16 the green light needs to be eliminated after the left turn arrow. Some no post barriers need to be installed and the road markings maintained .

Like all the things done in our City most of them are no brainers. It appears that the bussines comunity lays out our traffic flow patterns. It is unbeleivable how some of our intersections are designed for traffic flow when you look at where offramps are located. It appears we need to get as many vehicles into our parking lots as easily as is possible regardless off other traffic movement.

An overpass? For a 20 minute rush hour. Give me a break.Most of the time theres hardly enough traffic to even warrent a traffic signal. Whats really needed is a better attitude and a little comon sence when it comes to driving habits.

There are drivers in Prince George that have been here to long and think we are still in the 60's when it comes to driving our vehicles. When a driver is involved in an accident one requirement needed is some driver training.

Cheers

Crashes are caused by stupidity. Too many people truly believe that "the rules do not apply to them". A four way stop is what holds YOU back so THEY can go first. Green means "go ahead", yellow means "hurry up", and red means "go ahead, take your time cause you own the road". The "right of way" means "me first".

Just way too many rude people who have driver's licenses out there. No manners, no clue, no patience, they should have NO LICENSE.

I noticed the signs at College Heights, but I also noticed that they didn't make much difference in how the traffic moved. When I go through that intersection I always approach with extreme caution and try to watch all directions of traffic including what is coming up from behind. Believe me, it has saved my life a time or two.

They had the chance to improve that intersection as part of the cost of putting in the box store shopping centre.

That has to be the worst access for such a centre in BC. Seamutt has described many of the obvious.

I disagree with Bridge on the overpass not being needed at that location.

Heavy industrial traffic starts that 8% grade at 80km an hour posted in Parkridge heights on a substantial down grade that lasts for nearly 2km with a speed change to 60km at Tim Hortons and bringing 60 tons to a stop on Domano. Its hard on equipment, but obviously can be done. To make matters worse the road lines all down that hill swerve 10 feet either side depending on where you are on the hill with little cars all around merging everywhere. The question arrives when you get a unit that is unfamiliar with that situation and comes in to hot only to be surprised when they reach Tim Hortons to find out they have to scrub off all that momentum in very short order. This is to say nothing of winter black ice conditions.

If that intersection was on any other part of the trans-Canada hi-way anywhere else other than Northern BC, then you can be sure that it would be an overpass no questions asked. Its a federal problem and not a city problem because it is part of the federal hi-way infrastructure. With a federal MP that has been missing in action for over a decade it is no surprise nothing ever gets done with that intersection.

IMO The intersection at the bottom of Peden Hill is another one that will require an overpass if the new neighbourhood planned along the river is to go ahead.

I see the day in the not to distant future when traffic will have to stop on the black ice come down the curves of Peden Hill because of traffic backed up as a result of the new Fraser Flats neighberhood. That will be a disaster waiting to happen IMO.

More studies and no changes. Why don't all of these people who do the studies continue to figure out some solutions to the problems? Reporting the problem year in and year out is a useless waste of time and money. Chester